Have you tried the field test for the RSA? I've shot pistols for a while and also have a g17. Do you have a Glock Armorer orange endplate that allows you to see the striker trigger bar engagement?. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who would seek to destroy me. I found my recoil springs drops a little as well. Is there something specific i should look at on the mags? This may sound silly but when I was new to glocks I thought the pin in the grip frame was only if you used the extended back straps. How are you sending the slide forward? You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. If you need to smooth the face on the cruciform, I've found that a super fine file works best. Im thinking the mag springs are hanging up on something. Several failures to go into battery per magazine? - Bren. I am doing my Armorers class this coming week and planned to bring up the question. I recently changed out the connector on a new G19 I picked up and I noticed that if I rode the slide home slowly while doing dry fire practice the gun would FTRTB due to a longer arm on the connector that rides against the cam on the slide. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. The problem is once I pull the trigger, and the slide racks either from firing or manually, it won't return fully to battery while the trigger is held back. Something is WRONG, either modifications, misassembled, or maintenance. Shoot the crap out of it. I know a few guys who shoot sigs and its starting to feel like Ive been trying to make my gun perform more like theirs. It's working fine now. Ohthis is all with the muzzle pointing straight up. Clear editor. It seems like it gets caught on something when you hold the trigger back, like to test the reset, and then when you release the trigger the slide eases forward on its own. I do not recommend using a dremel on that. Paste as plain text instead, Eject it. I knew what it felt like from a second 17 I own, so I knew that was the route I wanted to go. Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. I really couldn't say because even before I shot the gun I changed the connector. Out of a 10 round mag, it averaged 2 or 3 times. The slide isn't meant to be let down easy during normal use. So let's make sure we understand this situation. LW barrels are drop in, but they really are more of forced fit. Welcome to Glocks, I'm not new to glocks and have done detailed strips before so I don't think it is the recoil spring not seated correctly. The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? Ammo from the same box will fire fine in my 92A1 and P228, and G19 with the factory barrel. It runs fine when shooting but it you ease the slide forward it stops and does not go into battery unless the trigger is moved forward. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. It's as if the holding of the trigger is holding back the slide somehow. Give your new G19 some good lube on the rails, tabs and the barrel before shooting it again. I appreciate any help or tips you folks might have. Haha.). So w/o any round the chamber, pull the trigger back and hold it, then ease slide back and look for the slide to raise up some. It has a Scherer 3.5 connector. Another dumb question is are you intimately familiar with taking the gun part and putting it back together? Your link has been automatically embedded. You cannot paste images directly. I ordered a pierce +0 grip extension that should take care of the pinch and I'll only use round nose in it from now on. This allowed the rear trigger housing to raise up and give me battery/jamming issues as well. If it does, you may want to look into a ligher recoil spring kit to continue using your existing loads. How much did you need to take off? In the end, you will want to have at least 2/3 to 3/4 of the sear face/firing pin engagement to be safe. are you certain that everything is installed properly? Have you tried shooting it? Im a little ahead of you on this path. I agree with comments a few others have already made that Timney triggers are not necessarily a simple drop in. Sorry about that. That's been my experience. I was not really paying attention to what he did. There is a lot of stuff interacting to make the gun work and sometimes it can be hard to figure out. That's one reason why using the slide stop is more reliable than pulling back on the slide; because some times shooters will pull it back but then also ease it forward removing momentum and causing the gun to not lock up properly. Glock 36's historically dislike certain ammo's, you just need to find the ammo it likes. check the recoil spring. If it does, its hitting that bump too high. I just made the switch to CO from Production with my 34.5 MOS. Back to the G19m and several more failure to fires. I do . You can take the Glock Armorers course and they give you one. Nice pull and crisp break. This isn't an issue when practicing slow fire but rapid fire would be a problem. The test I use is to take an UNLOADED gun and hold the trigger back, rack the slide back, then let the slide forward with my handto the point just before the barrel starts to rotate up, then I release the slide. Haha). What happens when you let the slide slam forward? I only shoot factory ammo. The slide hangs up on something about 1/2" back. I am shooting my handloads right now it is 124 but will go back to 115 once this batch runs out. I'm hoping that shooting it will solve it. Yes, the Glock has been altered from stock. The Barbie dolls are mine. 17s and a 26 but done here, but the methods should be the same on the 20. Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. Ok, then 2k rounds isn't outside the realm of possibility for the spring to start failing the spring test. Remove as little material as necessary while maintaining the proper angle on it (sear face). I stripped the entire frame and can't seem to find the issue. Interesting. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. first 50 rounds about 20% had a bulge in the casing at the base of the bullet, causing the slide not to go into battery. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Matter of fact, I have a couple of triggers from Charlie Vanek that he used a Lone Wolf connector in that he had tuned up. "Laws that forbid the carrying of armsdisarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimesSuch laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." Then run it like you sole it and it will work fine. I will let everyone know what I find out. I'm in California), but then it stops going forward just short of going into battery. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. Pasted as rich text. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. Technical Factory Pistols Glock failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger By Nick29 February 21, 2022 in Glock Share Followers 2 Reply to this topic Start new topic Nick29 Posted February 21, 2022 Nick29 Members 10 Gender:Male Location:San Antonio, TX Buy some higher power factor ammo for the next (200) rounds. BrianEnos.com The last thing you want is to damage it so it's inoperable. I noticed that sometimes when I shoot, it will not go into battery (cycles fine otherwise) until I release the trigger. The tools. I have played with many Glock triggers and trigger parts since then, both Glock and aftermarket selections, looking for that secret sauce. I have to say that with a little tuning my Timney triggers run like no other Glock trigger I have owned and they are really a game changer for Glock pistols if you look closely at how they function! I'm wondering if it could be a defective recoil spring? Make sure your slide lock spring is all the way flush with the inside channel. Break it in!!! Thanks for the suggestion. Did you try having someone else shoot it? Usually a problem in the op rod channel or a rail problem. In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. By Upload or insert images from URL. Yes i am. If it were me I would use a calipers to take some measurements of your OEM slide rail slots from front to back versus your new Suarez slide front to back,I suspect you will discover differences. -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria, This is a decent video to check out to double check. Sometimes you just need to oil them and rack the slide a few hundred or thousand times to break it in. Its light but mushy. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I would tear it down and put it back together a few times. If you have a weak spring, the slide won't go back into battery if you slowly let it move upwards against gravity. I couldnt be happier. Thanks for all the feedback everyone. Is this normal with these mods? 4 Reply SuccMySquanch 8 mo. It definitely had the issue less today (not every mag) but its still doing it. I'll do a detail strip soon and see if I find anything out of the ordinary. What load you firing? I bought a LW threaded barrel direct from Gemtech last year for my suppressor. NWGlocker Registered Joined Aug 12, 2010 The problem was a Ghost firing pin safely spring. It will be fine for a few shots, or even a magazine (10 rounds. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. Wondering if you ever got your issues resolved? I would pull and hold the trigger, rack the slide and it wouldn't return completely to battery until I released some tension on the trigger. Who knows. Ive had to bump up my striker spring to get their a few boxes of really old PMC primers that came my way. This, in all cases with any new firearm, is a fundamental error. I'm assuming the recoil spring isn't the issue since it's only been fired one time. *********************************************, [URL]https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=XI026751. 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