I used to Stan liked the way I made up names, civilian names, and I used to, from my years of doing these, what do you call it, these fantasy books, monster books, and I used to look at the back of dictionary, Miriam Webster had biographical names and geographical, so I would look in towns and if I liked the town, I might put it. Fury war-comics story or a standalone tale in one of the Marvel line of black-and-white magazines such as Vampire Tales or Haunt of Horror. Q: And did all of the ideas for stories come from Stan Lee or was there any other way you would get ideas? [4] Already interested in art and drawing by this time, he attended George Washington High School there. Now, I don't know if I found "Uru" someplace or I just made it up or whatever. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. Stan had his own way of writing and his own using as few words as possible, making them count, and he he was a good editor. For roughly a year-and-a-half, he lived in the since-defunct Hotel Manhattan Towers, a residence hotel at Broadway and West 76th Street in Manhattan. Or else I I either brought it to the office and handed it to Stan, who must have sent it, or else I sent it. We're going to focus today on the period from 1958 to 1965, so that's fine. Lawrence D. "Larry" Lieber (born October 26, 1931) is an American comic book artist and writer, and the younger brother of Marvel Comics' writer, editor and publisher Stan Lee.. Lieber is best known for scripting the first appearances of the Marvel characters Iron Man and Thor; for his long stint both writing and drawing the Marvel Western Rawhide Kid; and for illustrating the newspaper comic . And as time went on, he had fewer to make."[14]. English Wikipedia. Anthony Stark. There's an incredible amount of material here so what I'm going to do is break down and excerpt stuff that jumps out at me. LARRY LIEBER: No. It didn't work out too well, and Jeff finally left angrily or something, and I had to take over all his books. I know there were artists who work for other companies. LARRY LIEBER: My understanding they were not obligated. LARRY LIEBER: That I did freelance work for them? Larry Lieber was born in Manhattan, New York City, New York, the second child of Romanian Jewish immigrant parents Celia (Solomon) and Jack Lieber, and the brother of the nearly nine years older Stanley Martin Lieber, later best known as Marvel Comics editor and impresario Stan Lee. Edward L. K I used to go to it and gets parts of names to put together."[17]. There was nothing about this most . Larry Lee is the younger brother of Stan Lee and was born on October 26th, 1931. Danny Earls, courtesy of a tweet from Gail Simone, and some rather fine sample pages, has secured himself gigs with both Marvel and DC Comics. At this point in the late 1950s, Kirby was drawing science fiction / fantasy stories followed by giant-monster tales in what collectors and historians call "pre-superhero Marvel" comics, primarily Journey into Mystery, Strange Tales, Tales of Suspense and Tales to Astonish. Larry Lieber, who scripted the initial appearances of Iron Man, Thor, Ant-Man, Loki, Fin Fang Foom, and other heroic and villainous characters in the Marvel Universe, has sued Marvel/Disney for a bigger portion of the pie. So that was my first victory if you want to call that a victory, right. They had one son: Stanley Martin Lieber. I don't recall anything until the book came out and I got a copy of it and saw. Husband of Joan (Boocock) Lee married 5 Dec 1947 in Reno, Nevada, United States. I don't think so, I didn't have any steady work then. [4], Lee wrote in his autobiography that when Larry was a teenager, the boys' mother died and Lieber went to live with his brother and his sister-in-law, Joan, prompting the trio's move to Woodmere, New York, on Long Island. Later on, his parents had another son named Larry Lieber. Then you would bring it to the office? So he did. I remember being I spent a lot of time in the office then, and I remember being in the office and Milly, who was the bookkeeper, would sometimes come would come around and give out checks to the people on staff, I believe, and also to freelancers. Though he gave up the role of regular artist in Spring 1979 and the role of regular writer in mid-1982, he would still write and draw the occasional installment until the strip's end in September 1982. [11] This included creating the names of their respective alter egos: Don Blake, Tony Stark, and Henry Pym. LARRY LIEBER: Not me. It was the latter half of the 1960s when I became infatuated with Marvel Comics, among the favorites was Larry's Rawhide Kid. LARRY LIEBER: I I'm not certain. Expand. Comics are different from novels in that it's a visual medium, so you have to be know that. It didn't appeal to me. Q: And that's because they had purchased it from you? So I used to think, gee, well, you know, he draws faster than I can write, but I I wrote and mailed it to him. So That was one area because I'm wanting to be an artist myself, and I thought I had a very good sense of the drama and what to put down, what to draw. LARRY LIEBER: Writing on the back, yes. Marvel? The only, and this isn't interviewed, but, no, no, no, no, no. [11] This included creating the names of their respective alter egos: Don Blake, Tony Stark, and Henry Pym. 7. After a while, I'd just go to the typewriter. No. LARRY LIEBER: In those days, yes. I never had to, you know, go home and do it again. You know, I don't remember. [22], With the end of his run on Rawhide Kid, Lieber found little further Marvel work. He still gave me work, he didn't want to take work away, but they were putting out a few more books. LARRY LIEBER: You mean as opposed to cash? He is a writer, known for Iron Man (2008), Avengers: Endgame (2019) and Ant-Man (2015). LARRY LIEBER: No, they all came from Stan Lee. Q: How what was your involvement, besides coming up with the name Henry Pym, what was your involvement? LARRY LIEBER: Yes. LARRY LIEBER: I think I probably in the back of Miriam Webster somewhere there was somebody Pym. I wanted to leave, so I left. Within the next few years, healong with help from Kirby, his brother Larry Lieber, and artist Steve Ditko . LARRY LIEBER: No. Frank Lieber (Lieber family) Frank Lieber served as president of the District 108 School Board in Highland Park during the 1970s, and raised funds for Highland . I was unsure of myself just sitting down to write a script. He is the younger brother of Marvel Comics ' writer, editor, and publisher Stan Lee . Q: What was your involvement? [21], After the debut Iron Man story in Tales of Suspense #39 (March 1963), however, Lee replaced Lieber with Robert Bernstein, writing as "R. Berns", for the next seven issues before Lee took over the reins himself for a few stories. Q: Okay. Jack Kirby would go on to write and pencil the Thor portion of Journey into Mystery with dialogue by Lieber and Robert Bernstein until issue #90 when . I think the Ant-Man, I think it was Jack Kirby who drew it, so I would have either sent it to him, if it was late, or I would have brought it to the office and then handed it to Stan. Marvel Comics founder and longtime publisher Martin Goodman had left Marvel in 1972, having sold the company in 1968, and launched this new company in June 1974 to go head-to-head with Marvel and DC Comics. I call him every week. But if you didn't come into the office, I don't remember if they sent them to you. So I came up with that. At this point, business was bad, and I tried to do what I could. [20] For another series, starring the Human Torch from the Fantastic Four, Lieber co-created the longstanding supervillain the Wizard in Strange Tales #102 (Nov. No. And Don Blake I just thought sounded like a doctor and, you know, to fit the personality. Assumes facts. Q: And those scripts were purchased by Marvel? I think I wanted a little more freedom. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Lieber. I made up stories that I really liked and it lasted a little while. (Lieber Exhibit 6, an excerpt from Jack Kirby Collector Forty-One, marked for identification, as of this date.). "[8], At 17, Lieber became a messenger for The New York Times and also found work at the Times Square studio of Sam Furber, a letterer whose work included movie posters. It's easy on the letterer; they're going to be using it all the time. Then he goes over it, and usually he will change things in the writing, and sometimes in the artwork. date of birth. LARRY LIEBER: and I made it up." I'm sorry. It would be panel by panel. For roughly a year and a half, he lived in the since-defunct Hotel Manhattan Towers, a residence hotel at Broadway and West 76th Street in Manhattan. As Lieber explained, Lee, wasn't always the most patient person and I had problems [writing] the dialogue and he said, "Why did you say that? (break in testimony) Q: Did he ever make changes to your stories or the scripts you would turn in? Fury war-comics story or a standalone tale in one of the Marvel line of black-and-white magazines such as Vampire Tales or Haunt of Horror. So at any rate finally I think at one point he got a little exasperated and he said, "Im going to hire some of the old pros." A group of friends made it their life-long mission to go to the Super Bowl and meet NFL superstar Tom Brady. Q: None whatsoever? Larry Lieber is Stan Lee's younger brother and wrote Marvel books in the sixties such as Iron Man, Thor and Rawhide Kid. LARRY LIEBER: No. And as time went on, he had fewer to make."[14]. MS. SINGER: Objection. LARRY LIEBER: I think I had them at the very beginning when I started writing. "They needed superhero-reprint covers, and I could do them somewhat in Kirby's style. Both are captured by the mysterious Mr. Nash, who wants to clone the Hulk. Q: What did you come up with? He said, Larry if you want, you can write The Hulk and draw it. 3 references. Looking for Larry Lieber online? Lieber recalled in 1999 he had written some or all of these stories himself, "because I remember Stan was saying to me, 'You write romances really well. MS. SINGER: Yes, carrying over. How, how did you come to write the first script for Iron Man? He also wrote the newspaper Spider-Man comic strip for years. I wrote The Rawhide Kid and I drew it. [26][27] With co-scripter Gary Friedrich primarily, Lieber wrote the hero's seven-page lead feature in the weekly Captain Britain #24-37 (March 23 - June 22, 1977),[28] and, with co-writer Jim Lawrence, Captain Britain adventures in Marvel UK's Super Spider-Man #233-246 (July 27-Oct. 26, 1977). And I don't remember the specific story, but I was working on something and maybe a zombie book or a horror book or some such thing, and I I was given I had to make up a story. Larry Lieber studied at the Pratt Art Institute, Brooklyn, New York, and the Art Students League, New York City. LARRY LIEBER: Yes, I see the line. That was it. Larry Lieber was witness to the aftermath of one story conference. [8], In 1980 and 1981, concurrent with the Hulk strip, Lieber contributed some degree of penciling on the daily and Sunday comic strip The Amazing Spider-Man until Fred Kida took over as regular penciler. Lee then took over as regular writer for the next few years. Lieber is best known for scripting the first appearances of the Marvel characters Iron Man, Thor and Ant-Man; for his long stint both writing and drawing the Marvel Western Rawhide Kid; and for illustrating the newspaper comic strip The Amazing Spider-Man for many years and continuing as of 2014. My brother was back from the Service, he was just married and he moved out outside of New York to Long Island. Larry is also a co-creator of the Marvel Comics superheroes Iron Man, Thor, Ant-Man and was an artist for the Amazing . Q: Did they did Marvel provide you with any paid vacation? "They needed superhero-reprint covers, and I could do them somewhat in Kirby's style. Larry Lieber. Q: I think you mentioned that you started working at Marvel in about 1958? both New York City and Indianapolis. My only experience was in the color comics. I mean, what would you what would you turn in? There would be no reason for me to look at it. Joan Lieber. Q: If you understand the question, you can Q: There's a reference here to "Marvel style." Marvel's Thor first appeared in August 1962's Journey into Mystery #83, with creation credits believed to be Jack Kirby (penciler/plotter), Stan Lee (editor/plotter) and Larry Lieber (scripter). LARRY LIEBER: I don't remember whether I initiated it or Stan offered it to me. Connect to the World Family Tree to find out, Oct 26 1931 - New York City, New York, USA, Oct 26 1931 - Manhattan, New York City, New York, United States, Jacob Aaron Lieber, Celia Lieber (born Solomon), Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/194676861/jacob-aaron-lieber, New York, New York County, NY, United States. Q: For all the time you worked there? I don't know. Q: And that artwork was also purchased by And I took them home and I taped them together, you know, I taped them all, and I kept them and I've kept them all these years to look at them and, as I say, to study them. Q: What was Ant-Man's name? [29][30] Lieber said Lee gave a rare compliment on the Hulk strip, telling his brother, "[I]t's very good. Q: So did you write the first issue of The Rawhide Kid? Q: Do you know what a declaration is? Son of Jack Aron Lieber and Celia Lieber It didn't appeal to me. Suddenly on Saturday, March 22, 2008 at his home. LARRY LIEBER: As far as I remember, it was you mean written. Rachel (Lieber) Friedlender 01 Jan 1912 . Family Brother . [8], After returning from the service, Lieber attended Manhattan's Art Students League. [27], The Hulk was kind of popular on television, and so I drew The [Incredible] Hulk. How would you know what to write about? MR. TOBEROFF: Assumes facts. Now, onto the deposition of Larry Lieber: LARRY LIEBER: I I know I was doing, sometime back, I did The Hulk newspaper strip. Q: And what would happen next? These were all scripts in advance [that Kirby would illustrate]. Q: And do you recall that those words or something to that effect being on the back of every check you got from Marvel for that period from 1958 to '65? MR. TOBEROFF: Just a second. I don't recall. [1], Lieber also penciled The Amazing Spider-Man Annual #4-5 (1967-1968), the latter introducing in flashback the late parents of protagonist Peter Parker; co-wrote and co-penciled the first solo Doctor Doom feature story, in Marvel Super-Heroes #20 (May 1969);[11] and did occasional other work including, for Magazine Management's men's magazines, several stories of the bawdy "nudie-cutie" comedy feature "Pussycat". LARRY LIEBER: No. From 1974 to 1975, he was editor of Atlas/Seaboard Comics. Larry Lieber is the author of Captain Britain (3.48 avg rating, 46 ratings, 13 reviews, published 2011), Tales to Astonish #13 (3.31 avg rating, 29 ratin. Q: And the "he" there was Stan Lee? And where he would discuss a story or a plot with the artist and the artist would write it not write, I'm sorry. [3] When he was six months old, the family moved to The Bronx,[4] settling at 1720 University Avenue, which Lee described as a one-bedroom, "third-floor apartment facing out back", with him and Larry sharing a bedroom and his parents using a foldout couch. [21] Lieber wrote the first nine Ant-Man stories (following the character's non-costumed introduction months earlier) in Tales to Astonish #35-43 (Sept. 1962 - May 1963) before veteran Ernie Hart did five issues, followed by Lee taking over. LARRY LIEBER: The first time. Q: Please. LARRY LIEBER: No. It didn't work out too well, and Jeff finally left angrily or something, and I had to take over all his books. There were artists and writers who had worked I was almost the only one in the profession who couldn't work for another company, which, in this case, the most likely one would have been DC, because Stan was my brother. I lived with him for a while and it didn't work out so well. He was very easy, he was showing me and hed make some little corrections. [11], In 1951, he enlisted[8] with the U.S. Air Force, beginning four years of military service. A new report by THR's Eriq Gardner reveals that this is just the tip of the iceberg of a new round of copyright claims and counterclaims among the heirs of Silver Age creators and the sole surviving creator, Larry Lieber, aka Stan Lee's brother. Also I think its even more dramatic than [the] Spider-Man [comic strip]". LARRY LIEBER: I'm sorry, I Other Formats: Paperback . Genealogy for Celia Lieber (Solomon) (1894 - 1947) family tree on Geni, with over 230 million profiles of ancestors and living relatives. The very last line on page19. LARRY LIEBER: Oh, I would turn in the script. Mother of: Stanley Martin Lieber, aka Stan Lee Lawrence D. "Larry" Lieber (B2610310R) Burial: 17 Dec 1947 NY, NY City Municipal Deaths (FamilySearch) Thank you, Shannon. He was very easy, he was showing me and he'd make some little corrections. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. Beginning in 1951, he spent four years in the Air Force during the Korean War era, two years in Okinawa, before pursuing his chosen field. He scripted and occasionally also drew the odd Western or Sgt. MR. TOBEROFF: I'm supposed to object before you answer. I made that, which people know about. (At this point there was a break where testimony was taken 'off the record' at the requests of Marvels lawyer. Find out about Stan Lee's family tree, family history, ancestry, ancestors, genealogy, relationships and affairs! LARRY LIEBER: You mean the in the story parts? I didn't have any steady work then. Jury finds Harvard professor Charles Lieber guilty of hiding ties to China Charles Lieber, the former chair of Harvard's chemistry department, has been convicted of lying to the university and the . Stan Lee was an American comic-book writer, editor, and publisher, who was executive vice president and publisher of Marvel Comics. LARRY LIEBER: They I was in the office, the Marvel office. Maybe there was just too much humor in it, or too much something. It depends. The others are worse than me. Lieber largely left superheroes to write and pencil what would be his signature series, the Marvel Western Rawhide Kid, beginning with issue #41 (Aug. 1964) and continuing through 1973 (after which it became a reprint title). [15], Lieber's earliest, tentatively confirmed pre-superhero Marvel script is for the six-page Don Heck-illustrated "I Am the Beast-Man" in Strange Tales #77 (Oct. 1960), and his first confirmed is the 13-page "I Led the Strange Search for Manoo", penciled by Kirby and inked by Dick Ayers, in Amazing Adventures #2 (July 1961). Lieber largely left superheroes to write and pencil what would be his signature series, the Marvel Western Rawhide Kid, beginning with issue #41 (Aug. 1964) and continuing through 1973 (after which it became a reprint title). Stan, yes. He said, and I repeat, he said, "I read your letters and I can teach you what you need." LARRY LIEBER: Scotch tape. Lieber, by now living in the Tudor City apartment complex in Manhattan, began freelancing[14] regularly for the nascent Marvel Comics, "writing stories for Jack [Kirby] to draw",[12] referring to the artist who had co-created Captain America for the company in 1940 and had recently returned for a long, exclusive stint in which Kirby would co-create many signature Marvel characters in the Silver Age of Comics. His first feature film was Thor: Ragnarok (2017). Now, I knew nothing about black-and-white comics, right? Q: Did you ever have discussions with artists about the stories or the scripts? 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